Cheesy but relevant

I decree today that life
Is simply taking and not giving
England is mine – it owes me a living
But ask me why, and I’ll spit in your eye
Oh, ask me why, and I’ll spit in your eye
But we cannot cling to the old dreams anymore
No, we cannot cling to those dreams
-Still Ill (The Smiths)

I have to admit I cringe when I see the fashions and the hair from the 1980s. But if you can get through the cheese, there was some interest angst being explored.

Take Morrissey for example. An ardent opponent of Thatcherism but yet the lyrics to this song could be the anthem for it.

Then again it was another big liberal, JFK, that said “Ask not what your country can do for you but what can you do for your country” or some slight variation.

Why am I raising this? I just got done scanning a pile of online newspapers and it’s all about giving goodies to particular groups of people. Only the crazy Dion is actually pulling an “ask what you can do for your country” kind of line but even he serves up one line about carbon taxes and ten about all the goodies to offset the carbon tax.

At some point, there are “greater good” kinds of issues that must transcend the giving out the goodies mentality in politics today. I would say economic development is one.

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0 Responses to Cheesy but relevant

  1. Anonymous says:

    Another worker insite,I picked up from

    Next Potash?

    I am a New Brunswicker working at Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering in Korea (currently #2 in the world)-

    The deputy minister of energy for Nova scotia stopped by and paid us a visit 2 weeks ago. Im not sure her motive was to study the shipbuilding business in order to revive the industry in Atlantic Canada, or to have a look at the 250,000 GWton LNG carriers we are building for the gas industry- some of which will deliver to the maritimes.

    Its a shame Irving cant/wont revive their shipyards– My company alone has $48Billion in backlogged sales. Dont think its because of a cost of labor advantage either– workers and office people are paid the same if not higher than in Canada.

    Also, the amount of outsourcing we do is rediculous. At least Irving could build components of the ships!

    We just gave a huge outsourcing contract to an untested chinese company– when i said how about Irving Shipbuilding, they laughed– they had never heard of them. (LACK OF MARKETING!!!!!!!!!!)

  2. mikel says:

    You’ve got way too literal a mind dude. In case you can’t understand them when sung, here’s the final verse:

    “Ask me why, and i’ll die
    Oh, ask me why, and i’ll die
    And if you must, go to work – tomorrow
    Well, if i were you i really wouldn’t bother
    For there are brighter sides to life
    And i should know, because i’ve seen them
    But not often …”

    THAT is an anthem for Thatcherism? I think not:)

    For the above, that’s a sad tale that in any province where some of Florida’s advice had been taken really should be a documentary. I wouldn’t doubt that a LOT of ex shipyard workers are in asia.

    However, that doesn’t help NB, all of Irvings shipbuilding works are done in Nova Scotia and PEI now . In Korea though, Daewoo was even more built by their government than Irving was. The government propped them up and bailed them out during the asian crisis.

    Of course in a similar vein, the government could AT LEAST have not given Irving millions to close it down, could at least have built canadian ships there and not bought cheap rotten British throwaways.

    It’s been awhile since its been discussed but its good to remember that while the feds in the US don’t have a generous EI scheme like Canada, they do have another way of subsidizing states, by ‘make work’ projects. Certain Navy destroyers are made only in Maine, which in large part supports most of their southern economy. So their government actually puts money into jobs, not laying off people.

    The Irvings couldn’t even get another contract, but there’s some evidence that the whole thing was designed simply to break the union-which it certainly did, and scared the hell out of all the other unions.

    But either way, shipbuilding really needs a FEDERAL presence. Even AIMS lately has been so happy with globalizations progress that they almost never mention the US Jones Act which prohibits all non-american crews from docking at american ports. Canada, of course, has no such restrictions, in fact Paul Martin fired the entire workforce of his newly inherited ship line just days after taking over and replaced them with philipino workers.

    So, yeah, its a shame, although making parts is not something that needs a shipyard. Unfortunately, even if the writer of the above letter were even more proactive, it wouldn’t do New Brunswick any good.