Finally, NB does something right

I have beem combing the world looking for things that New Brunswick has done right. Excellence that started in our problem.

Here’s an example.

Service New Brunswick was cited as as model for government service delivery by the Center for Technology in Government (CTG) at the University at Albany in New York.

Too bad that model was developed over a decade ago.

Still looking for world class stuff (musicians, atheletes, business leaders, innovations) coming out of New Brunswick in the past 7-8 years or so.

Any ideas?

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0 Responses to Finally, NB does something right

  1. Anonymous says:

    Who CARES about ‘world class stuff’, how about just decent stuff? Hell, I was ecstatic when poor roomers and boarders finally got some human rights. If they would actually contribute to making sure poor people actually know they have rights that would be a huge advancement. Not to put too fine a point on it, but ‘world class stuff’ is something upper middle class people think about so they can feel smug (for some reason).

    Athletes and musicians are the most self obsessed people in the world-almost by definition. Who needs a ‘yay Stuart X’ for winning the whatever.

    That sounds pissy, but thats because having met so many other canadians and heard their experiences I’m finding out how crappy this province is.

    Take music for example. Go look up ‘school band’ and and the province and country name. Two locations come up, Fredericton and St.Andrews. Of course its always a risk basing an argument on a quick google search but its also from experience.

    I started thinking about those american movies and tv shows with the ‘high school band’ as the perennial geeks. My wife grew up in Sudbury and played the flute but dropped out of the band.

    I took some music in elementary school, and then there was no other possibilities for music. No classes in junior high and none in high school. Not only that, there were no extracurriculars in music, they were all sports, and mostly team sports which meant you got to play maybe once or twice a week.

    Not only that, but considering how much stress is on academics, what with homework, that meant there was no time for practising. My sisters were ‘forced’ by my parents for some reason to take piano until they got to junior high and quit because they hated it.

    At that time no other schools had music either. Apparantly Fredericton took a chance on a music director which has paid off. But so is there a surprise that there are no musicians in NB except post punk bands by guys who can barely play-but at least are popular with a certain demographic.

    The acadians have far more notoriety here because unlike the english new brunswick work ethic, they actually have enjoyment as part of their culture. So there are many musicians of note there.

    So forget world class, how about just not ‘shitty class’. How about we start praising the vaguely competent and the success stories that just don’t get noticed. How about the “My kid isn’t in Jail” awards or “This local business actually functions without subsidies” or “Here’s a piece of the environment we didn’t cut to ribbons (with the herons nests)”

    How about taking standouts and just duplicating them. How about having a Fredericton Harvest and Blues festival JUST for kids or Frederictonians every month, or even twice a year.

    How about awards to police officers in Moncton who DON”T give tickets to people who are just begging for money to get by and thereby sending them to jail.

    So this doesn’t sound too negative, I’ll make a contribution that may be now defunct, which is a lady up in Bathurst who used to have operas or something that were quite a big deal up there. I forget her name.

  2. dako says:

    Why Frank McKenna has decided to (or why his wife has decided it for him) retire from public life is a source of great pain to me.

    Alright, not all that much pain. But just think of the upcoming Liberal convention with McKenna in the mix.

    Musically, the Divorcees are set to kick Nashville’s ass far back up inside Conway Twitty’s sequined pants.

    And, hmmm. Who else. Matt Stairs? 7th hitter on any team that would have him, though still a major league baseball player.

    The chick who kept coming in 10th at Olympic swimming?

    The man who could have been Stephen Harper?

    How about this: David W. Campbell.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Ode à l’Acadie !!!

  4. David Campbell says:

    To anon, people feel ‘pride’ when people excel that are from your province. I disagree with you on the value of that.

    As for the few examples:

    Ode à l’Acadie – this is world class stuff.

    The Divorcees – never heard of them but I’ll take your word.

    Matt Stairs – He’s an example of my point. Jason Dickson as well – these are from over ten years ago.

    The chick who kept coming in 10th at Olympic swimming.

    The man who could have been Stephen Harper? As for Bernard, having a Prime Minister from New Brunswick would have been quite an achievement. But he passed and is about to go the way of Grant Devine. If he get’s a second chance, then let’s talk.

    As for David W. Campbell, I can tell you that I am world famous in my mind and just about nobody else.

  5. Anonymous says:

    I’m not surprised, but why you’d be proud of somebody’s else’s accomplishments is beyond me. You did nothing, whats to be proud of? You might as well be proud they are from the same country, or of course the same planet.

    YOU should be proud of putting in the work on this blog, thats an accomplishment as its work. That’s my point, people dwell on the accomplishments of others for their pride. Be proud of what you do, or else do something to be proud of.

  6. Geeks says:

    It is important because it gives people HOPE. More importantly, it gives NB children hope that they have a future in this province.

    Another reason is because it gives expats a reason to return. If they are unaware of the great things we can acheive in this province, they will never see a reason to return.

    If you do not beleive that we have great talent in this province I ask you to look at the following: http://www.risingstars.ca/English/index/winners.cfm

    Why do you think most people think of places like Ontario or Alberta when it come to investment or immigration? It’s mainly because they are no afraid to brag about their accomplishments.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Name one ‘famous’ Albertan? Name ONE famous Ontarian? You think immigrants go to Ontario because Bruce Cockburn, Rush or Wayne Gretzgy is from there? Come on!

    During the big SARS concert, even RUSH was hardly even mentioned, everythign was ‘the rolling stones’. The ontarians could even get billing. During the Live Eight concert, one radio DJ started a protest because Stompin Tom, at least a marginally famous voice of the poor, wasn’t even thought of as an invitee. But they piped in Celine Dion who now lives in Las Vegas.

    As for ‘hope’, thats just pathetic, and may possibly explain the mentality of New Brunswickers. Essentially, ‘hope’ comes from looking at people who gain enough success to get the hell out of here! That’s EXACTLY the wrong kind of hope.

    If you want ‘hope’ you create opportunity. As I’ve stated, create a New Brunswick television station and you create ‘hope’ for all those people with nothing to do and no cultural venue to do it in. That kind of hope is not hard, it just requires organization and political effort, something New Brunswickers are allergic to, so instead they find people who happen to do something really well that is of no benefit to anybody but themselves.

    If you want to be proud of something, DO something, don’t ride the coattails of other peoples accomplishments. Want children to have ‘hope’, give them something to have hope in . Give them a decent society, give them scientific and cultural opportunities, and not just sporting ones which serve no use once they hit college (unless they happen to be the less than 1% which actually excels in which case they can get out of here quicker).

  8. Trevor says:

    Wow! I do not know where to begin…

    First off, I wasn’t speaking specifically about people. More like things that distinguish the province from other regions. For example,

    Alberta:

    No Deficit
    World’s second largest oil reserves
    Calgary Stampede
    Home of the 88 Olympics
    Home of 2 Stanley Cup Champions

    Ontario:

    Auto Industry
    CN Tower
    Blue Jays, Maple Leafs
    Financial and political capital of Canada
    Shania Twain

    Did you not feel proud as a Nber when Casey Leblanc made it into the top 10 of Candian Idol? Are you disapointed when you open a paper and see a local company being recognized on the national stage as one of the best in Canada or the world? Do you know how many of my international clients knew that Moncton hosted the largestconcert on their tour last year?

    To your point about immigration. If I was an immigrant looking to settle in Canada, I would look at “world class” things like:

    What province has the most companies who are recognized as:

    a) One of Canada’s best employers
    b) Fastest growing in Canada/North America
    c) Innovative

    As far as “DO something, don’t ride the coattails of other peoples accomplishments.” goes… I agree people need to do something, but they also need role models who have demonstrated that it can be accomplished. Have you ever been to a Montreal Canadians game? Prior to the game, they show footage of Montreal’s storied past. Why do they do this? They do it to rally the fans and the players which gives them a mental edge over the competitor.

    That’s why I founded Geeks on Ice, actively participate in Rising Stars and have coached childrens hockey in the past. GOI and Rising Stars serve to tell people from inside and outside NB that we are successfull and we can compete on a international stage. Through these organizations, I have learned of several new initiatives and organizations that are seeing success right here in NB. Not to mention, have met some seriously talented professionals along the way.

    NB does have several companies in this province that are recognized world leaders but we do a poor job of “bragging” about our accomplishments. We are not lazy, it’s just our culture to be modest.

    When I travel outside of NB, I always think of myself as an ambassador for our province. Anyone willing to listen will hear me talk about our beautifull landscape and friendly people. Remember, you never know who’s listening while your riding in the elevator in NYC. Secondly, I will talk to them about the great and talented people we have like the Rising Stars to name a few. Then I talk about the innovations NB has brought to the world like frozen foods(McCains) and SNB.

    When it comes down to it, I completely disagree with you ANON. A people are defined by their narratives. If we tell our children about our successes, they are likely to strive for success. If we tell them of the successes we are having in this province, the less likely they are to leave.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Very true, ALL people are defined by their ‘narratives’. Let’s look at New Brunswick:

    All media owned by own company
    One company with hundreds of companies in every industry
    Most industries dominated by two companies.
    Among the lowest standard of living
    No medical school
    no veterinary college

    So how many New Brunswickers do you know that BRAG about that? Irving is one of the most successful companies in the world, how many people actually stand up and say that “well, at least we have Irving”. The latest senate report came out saying New Brunswick is about the worst example of how to legislate media.

    But don’t twist the words, YOU are doing something-organizing, coaching, etc. That’s what I’m talking about, so you aren’t disagreeing at all. As for what they show before a hockey game, that’s filler for the thousands of people who want to watch a hockey game and not a documentary. But nobody is talking about ‘entertainment’ here.

    If YOU feel proud because the Montreal Canadians won the Stanley Cup in such and such a year that is just sad.

    If you were an immigrant you’d look at where the jobs are, and where familiar communities exist. You think somebody from India, where they hold cows sacred is going to say ‘yeeha, get me to the calgary stampede’.

    The CN Tower? Who the heck from Toronto even mentions the CN Tower?

    But all that financial and investment stuff hits it on the head. People go there because thats where the money and services are. That has nothing to do with ‘pride’. Nobody says “I’m going to move to Toronto so I can be proud of the Blue Jays”. They might move there to go watch and root for the blue jays.

    I’m just stating my opinion, I’m not trying to convince anybody to share it, I’m quite aware that for many people the things they are most proud of are things they had absolutely nothing to do with. To me thats not pride, that’s just sad.