Congratulations to the Liberals

Despite the desperate acts of Al Hogan, the Liberals are returning to power after seven years. There’s not much to say except congratulations to the victors.

As of this moment even old Gene Devereux is actually winning in my riding. I have to laugh a bit at this as I asked a couple of Francophone colleagues that live in my neighbourhood why Joan MacAlpine doesn’t canvass our area of the riding while old Gene was by the house twice. I was told that our area is for ‘Frenchies’ and crack heads. Well, if Gene’s for the Frenchies and the crack heads, he’s good enough for me.

As for tomorrow, have some champagne and then get busy. Here’s my advice from a few days ago.

I guess in the final analysis I was wrong again. I had suspected that New Brunswickers were happy with the status quo and not willing to vote for change.

For me the damning commentary on Premier Lord came a few weeks ago when the esteemed Don Desserud claimed that Lord was an ‘incrementalist’ rather than a visionary leader.

When you are New Brunswick – facing serious economic and demographic challenges – the like we haven’t faced before – you need more than incrementalism. You do need vision.

Is Shawn Graham the guy?

You just gave him a try.

And for the province’s sake, I hope he is.

To my old friend the Sorry Centrist, look at the bright side. Being in opposition gives you a heck of a lot more to blog on than being in government.

As for Al Hogan, I suspect he is sitting in his Hummer with a beat red face yelling at the ceiling at Monctonians who didn’t heed his psychotic commentaries. I heard bad news from someone earlier today. They told me the rumours of Al’s demise are premature. Al, it seems, has a protector in the Brunswick News family that will ensure he poisons Monctonians for at least two more years.

Expect Al to turn the venom he has saved over the last seven years for City Hall and the Federal Liberals on the Liberals in Fredericton. But I think he is losing credibility with the readers on a daily basis. People aren’t buying that garbage anymore.

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0 Responses to Congratulations to the Liberals

  1. Anonymous says:

    Like I said, anybody that doesn’t think the Irvings know exactly what he’s writing is fooling themselves. He’s a foot soldier in the Irving Empire, nothing more. He’s not stupid, one phone call from the Irvings about his ‘we say’ and it would quickly sound quite different.

    However, what news on Bernard Lords riding? Anybody know the seat numbers yet?

  2. Anonymous says:

    It is interesting to note that while the popular vote is up for the Liberals in the north-east, and therefore this region may be blamed for the upset, the actual riding changes are spread over the province.

    The liberals gained seats in Miramichi Bay du Vin, Memramcook-Lakeville-Dieppe, Quispamsis, Fundy-River Valley, and Fredericton-Silverwood.

    As for the north-east, it is true though that we have been ignored for too long. If you punish ridings for not voting your way, don’t ever expect them to vote your way again.

  3. Anonymous says:

    To be fair, the northwest has been ignored as well. To be fair, in Saint John much of the growth has been in the energy sector which propped up the high tech sector-though not much.

    In other words, Saint John’s growth was mainly due to market forces, they can’t even get real commitments on harbour cleanup (yes, there have been slow movements, but it’s been seven years)

    According to TD, Canada is in for a ‘bumpy ride’ next year, so if good markets elsewhere has been propping up growth, what happens when those markets go down?

    It would be nice for some people to get together and figure out provincial spending in the ridings, it wouldn’t be easy, but at least with that data we’d know what was going on. I’ve said before, the public accounts are a gold mine for that, but it takes some work to show where the money is going.

    What is interesting is the division into ‘regions’. I suspect this has a political purpose because a growing trend has reality following perception. In that I mean if your RIDING elects a guy from the winning team, you can expect goodies, but if not, forget it. That’s something people have been saying for years, and recent evidence shows that its been true federally-but again, there isn’t enough to know provincially.

    A guy named ‘cooker boy’ once posted a list of ‘accomplishments’ for the Memramcook area. Perhaps he could outline his sources. I never thought of it, but during the campaign if I had checked local candidates websites there would be a good indication there, but I never thought of it during the campaign.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Look for plenty of stories to begin with ‘don’t even have the support of New Brunswickers’ in the T&T. Its sad, but its also true. So much for proportional representation.

  5. David Campbell says:

    I really don’t know much about proportional representation but if it’s the way of the future, I say bring it on. The reality is, however; politicians would have to get used to coalition governments. The ability to get a majority in a proportional representation is almost nil. You will have small parties, special interest parties, regional parties, etc. In Brazil, I believe there are at least 2-3 Communists in the Congress. But, in the end, maybe that is a better, more accountable system.

    The reality of Canadian politics since Confederation is that there has been very few minority governments – federal or provincial. In Canada, the government gets in, does what it wants and then gets booted out. And, it seems to have worked – it’s a great country.

  6. Anonymous says:

    If it ‘seems to have worked’ then you wouldn’t be spending how many hours each day putting out a blog saying the same thing over and over again?

    There are a lot of ‘ifs’ in there. It depends what you mean by a ‘great country’ (everybody from every country in the world will say that..I dare you to say “it’s a great political system”)

    More than half of New Brunswickers just wasted their votes, they might as well not have shown up since their vote was wasted.

    Canada has actually had quite a few minority governments, however, they are designed to not last. Polls show that canadians are far happier with minority governments than they are with majorities. Remember that in our country, a ‘majority’ does NOT mean a majority of people have voted, it just means seats, and in virtually every case a majority government has been only supported by a minority of people-so of course THEY are quite happy. But usually not with ALL legislation.

    But take a look at now. The things that most canadians think is ‘great’ are rapidly waning or under attack. There is no more testing on food or chemical products, and asthma and nerve disorders have skyrocketed, canadians are working longer hours than ever before with no job security (unless you are with government-shades of the soviet union), waiting lists and health care is under constant attack and many basic services are not met, all of our food has genetically engineered products even though canadians were vehemently opposed, poverty and homelessness are rampant, food banks are constantly stressed, petty crime is increasing and basic human rights being curtailed, overall taxes haven’t changed that much, just gone to different levels…

    Whoooo. And thats just off the top of my head. I’ve got news for you, if you go to Saudi Arabia and ask the average person in the street they will tell you “times are great, our monarchy ‘must be working’ because here it is, a great time to be a saudi arabian!”

    But thats simply because as the above post states, people know nothing about proportional representation. That’s an amazing fact in itself, that in a country with a daily media, constant news sources, international coverage, the internet, more education than at any time in history, and you can have people who say “I know nothing about how every democratic country in the world operates except Canada and the US”

    That’s an absolutely staggering fact. That’s preachy I know, but believe me, until I started digging I was the exact same way.

    The point is, changes in government don’t happen by osmosis or by saying ‘bring it on’. You think Irving, who owns all the media (and is responsible for never mentioning the above fact or how any other country operates) WANTS proportional representation?

    Do you think they’d get the tax breaks, government handouts, buyouts and concessions they get with a proportionally representative governmetn? Are you kidding? Not in this world.

    Credit to Bernard Lord for having the balls to even get a referendum on it, although he knows the irvings don’t like it, that’s why he put the referendum on a municipal election, when nobody bothers to vote anyway. And of course he’s counting on Irving ignoring it-because what New Brunswicker is going to vote to change electoral systems to a system they don’t even understand? Of course there’d be a few of those “Canada is a great place…why change it” articles, which are off the point.

    I don’t appreciate my vote yesterday meaning nothing. When people say “its your civic duty, get out and vote”, and I bother, and my vote is wasted, well, I’m starting to understand WHY people don’t vote, and thinking there’s something to that. Why should voting be a lottery?

    As for minority governments, politicians don’t like them, but if they HAVE to work within them then they do…what’s the alternative? They can quit if they want to, and if they are that anti democracy then they SHOULD quit. Every democratic country in the world seems to do OK with it, in fact far better than Canada. Remember, there’s a reason most New Brunswickers couldn’t name three pieces of legislation that the government is looking at.

    It’s also too bad, because there is a federal organization called that is trying to get the government ‘up to date’ (remember Chretien promising to bring in Proportional Representation without a referendum as soon as he was Prime Minister-in 1984!)

    Proportional Representation is hardly ‘the future’, it is the present for every other country. But keep in mind there are still monarchies in the world, and there are still dictatorships. Just because one country has a system, doesn’t mean it will ‘eventually’ come to others. People have to want it, in fact have to demand it. Or they get the government they deserve.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I might as well get my licks in now, because PR is dead as a dodo in NB. Time to look to Ontario.

    If you actually think it is ‘the way of the future’ and will just come in, look at some basic facts.

    1. New Brunswick actually USED to have a variant of proportional representation up to the fifties. It was at that point all across the country that governments simply changed them to ‘single member plurality’ – with NO referendum. (so that’s hardly the future)

    2. In British Columbia more people voted to install a very complex form of Proportional Representation than voted for the governing party which now has a majority and therefore absolute power. However, because an arbitrary value of 60% was chosen and it only got 59% the Premier maintained ‘the people have spoken’. No surprise that he would now have a minority government under PR.

    3. In Prince Edward Island, for some bizarre reason the government chose to have a plebiscite. Ironically, the NDP is even more non existent there than in NB. PR doesn’t serve much purpose in a two party system. Yet the heat was still on, there was little advertising, and the government closed many polls which required people to travel a fair distance to vote.

    4. Interestingly, even with half the votes, the NDP would still be a necessary ally to pass legislation under the current vote. Of course people vote far differently when their vote isn’t part of ‘the lottery’. Some people of course see that as being horrible, that the NDP ‘would have that much power’. Those are people who don’t know much about politics. In the vast majority of cases, both provincially and federally, the liberals and conservatives vote together.

    What it does is make it a compromise. Legislation then doesn’t become ‘either-or’. That is actually good, because under the current circumstances of the either-or, you have MASSIVE taxpayer waste, because a new party tears down everything the other party has built in order to focus on their priorities.

    The central point of PR is simply this-your vote doesn’t get wasted. To say ‘canada is a great country’ misses the point. Under that kind of thinking, what you are saying is that IF Canada is great it must be because of its governing party, therefore IF that governing party made it great, then all those people, those MAJORITY of canadians who didn’t vote for that party, that in fact THEY are part of the problem. I don’t think that is true, in fact far from it.

    We know that our universal healthcare, which USED to be the envy of the world, came in from a minority government, and from one that was petrified because Saskatchewan had introduced it provincially and the fear was that if every province did that, there would be little need of a federal government.

    So one of the biggest programs that many think is ‘great’ came in as a result of proportional representation (minority governments are ‘coincidental’ variants of PR, the seats come out the same as they would statistically under PR, but of course that’s excluding the major factor that people vote differentely under PR).

    Finally, much of that ‘regional divide’ that so divides Canada is largely based on our archaic electoral system. Alberta elects only blue candidates, and yet the liberals, who haven’t won a seat there in over a decade, are proportionately not that far behind.

    The same is true of conservatives in Ontario. The idea that the conservatives are a ‘western based’ and liberals an ontario based one, is largely due to the electoral system, not canadians. THe same is true of teh Bloc Quebecois which reached a critical mass that enables it to win seats. Even though only a small minority support them, they at one time were the official opposition.

    So in fact it is our current electoral system that divides Canada, and almost tore it apart. That’s hardly ‘great’. In fact its damn scary when your country almost ceased to exist because of an electoral system.

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  9. Anonymous says:

    Government knows best? At this site? Have I missed some comments?